Oct 27, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Rangers Unite! A Call to Arms!
I reported the bug with the interrupts, which is the delay after firing one on everything (not just using the next skill) and got this response...
Hello,
Thanks for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team.
We appreciate you sharing your concerns with us on this potential issue. We have determined that this issue is not a bug, and that the game is working as designed.
From http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html
# Distracting Shot Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used.
# Savage Shot Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used.
# Concussion Shot Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used.
# Punishing Shot Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used.
Please feel free to share your suggestions or feedback about any matter on the fansite forums listed at http://www.guildwars.com/community/. The game developers frequently check fansite message boards to obtain feedback and suggestions players may have concerning these types of issues.
Please contact us if you need further assistance,
The Guild Wars Support Team
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Might need some help clarifying it with ANet... Rangers unite and report the bug!
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Oct 27, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
It's not a bug. Read the last update notes.
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As soon as you finish your reading comprehension class.
# Distracting Shot Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used.
Delay between skills. On this we can all agree, no? Seems clear to me.
When did walking become a skill? When did firing a normal arrow become a skill? These are also delayed, hence the bug.
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Oct 27, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
When did walking become a skill? When did firing a normal arrow become a skill? These are also delayed, hence the bug.
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yep. its a bug.
signed,
Scout Master Syra
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Oct 27, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33
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The Humanoid Typhoon
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK
Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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Damn, useless A.net... at least they replied to you, they just passed my call to someone and told me to sod off more or less
I don't care what A.net say, this is bugged in my eyes... here's a common from another tread I posted in:
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Well consider even a dev have stated there is some kind of bug involved with them... both us could be wrong, I'm going to leave it at that since till a dev steps in and says otherwise I believe its not working as intended at all, since it makes no sense that your unable to move. The skill change says:
"Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used."
Doesn't say anything about firing normal shots or moving! Till a dev says otherwise I still think its not working 100% the way it intended to.
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Like you said, since when is MOVING a skill?
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Oct 27, 2005, 04:44 PM // 16:44
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Draconic Rage Incarnate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Iowa
Guild: Alphahive
Profession: R/A
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Man, I'm glad I don't really ever play my Ranger anymore - sounds like that would really suck.
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Oct 27, 2005, 05:09 PM // 17:09
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon
Man, I'm glad I don't really ever play my Ranger anymore - sounds like that would really suck.
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It's not a crippling bug, and rangers are still so adaptable that you can get through it, but a bug's a bug. The brief annoyance does fade when the opposing squishy collapes in a heap, but still...
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Oct 27, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Fellowship of Champions
Profession: R/E
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This is not good, its actually caused me to die a couple of times in pve. Nothing like standing with an abyss towering over you while hitting the move arrows and watching your toon stand there with its arms at its sides letting the monster get in a free KD. Also when in PUG's it makes us look stupid, standing there with arms at side while danger is all around, no wonder people don't let rangers in the PUG. If I saw that I would be like WTF is wrong with that ranger! This is the worst thing they done to us rangers yet.
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Oct 27, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
This is not good, its actually caused me to die a couple of times in pve. Nothing like standing with an abyss towering over you while hitting the move arrows and watching your toon stand there with its arms at its sides letting the monster get in a free KD. Also when in PUG's it makes us look stupid, standing there with arms at side while danger is all around, no wonder people don't let rangers in the PUG. If I saw that I would be like WTF is wrong with that ranger! This is the worst thing they done to us rangers yet.
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You really need to report this to ANet... they may need volume complaints to act. [email protected] I think...
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Oct 27, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: R/Me
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Its really bad when they use the "working as intended" phrase. Red flags go off everytime I read this from DEVs. In this case working as intended is something other than the patch description. Maybe if it's working as intented they could put exactly what they have nerfed/patched into patch notes next time.
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Oct 27, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02
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#10
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Jungle Guide
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you rangers are so goddamn stupid.
the delay affects everything including movement and thats just right, fair and intended.
it is not a bug just another wrong description of what has changed.
translating "added a deelay" into:
"After using this skill you are doomed by its activation time, that comes after the skill instead of before it, and forced to stand without being able to interrupt your skill activation"
Those skills activation time simply works reverse.
Ever seen an ele complaining about being not able to walk while casting?
could be worse, you could be interrupted while activating a skill.
Last edited by Ollj; Oct 27, 2005 at 06:08 PM // 18:08..
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Oct 27, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09
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#11
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
you rangers are so goddamn stupid.
the delay affects everything including movement and thats just right, fair and intended.
it is no bug.
those skills activation time simply works reverse.
ever seen an ele complaining about being not able to walk while casting?
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I've also never seen an ele finish casting then being requried to stand there and admire his work. Yet you call rangers stupid.
Look Sparky, the description clearly states that the delay is in using the next skill. At the very least, if that's not the true intent, this needs to be made clear. Otherwise, based on description, it's a bug.
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Oct 27, 2005, 06:13 PM // 18:13
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#12
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Jungle Guide
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wow guys, if you define "bug" by "it is not like its description" half of the german skills are bugged while they are just fine in english.
and 1/10 of all english skill descriptions are also wrong, smite hex does holy damage...
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Oct 27, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39
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#13
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO]
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The German skills aren't bugged just because the wording is wrong. That's entirely different. It's a mistake in translation, not programming.
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Oct 27, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: garden of the gods, CO
Guild: Over Powered
Profession: N/
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on one hand those ranger skills are bugged, on the other hand rangers can shoot thru solid objects. what ive heard is anet is considering to up the delay to 4 seconds, so i hope they are on it too. if they made those changes and fixed TC GW would be as close to perfect as you can get.
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
on one hand those ranger skills are bugged, on the other hand rangers can shoot thru solid objects. what ive heard is anet is considering to up the delay to 4 seconds, so i hope they are on it too. if they made those changes and fixed TC GW would be as close to perfect as you can get.
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4 secs. That is so deep into absurdity I have to assume you're either joking or trolling for flames. Fire and arrow and be frozen inactive for 4 secs.
Well, at least you have a sense of humor, be it dark.
As for shooting through objects, that should be fixed, as should any caster being able to target someone that they don't have line of sight on as well. How can an ele cast meteor on someone it can't even see? Just as bad as ranger arrows.
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:16 PM // 19:16
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
you rangers are so goddamn stupid.
the delay affects everything including movement and thats just right, fair and intended.
it is not a bug just another wrong description of what has changed.
translating "added a deelay" into:
"After using this skill you are doomed by its activation time, that comes after the skill instead of before it, and forced to stand without being able to interrupt your skill activation"
Those skills activation time simply works reverse.
Ever seen an ele complaining about being not able to walk while casting?
could be worse, you could be interrupted while activating a skill.
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Mesmer interupts cast faster than ranger interupts, yet there is no delay.
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: garden of the gods, CO
Guild: Over Powered
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
4 secs. That is so deep into absurdity I have to assume you're either joking or trolling for flames. Fire and arrow and be frozen inactive for 4 secs.
Well, at least you have a sense of humor, be it dark.
As for shooting through objects, that should be fixed, as should any caster being able to target someone that they don't have line of sight on as well. How can an ele cast meteor on someone it can't even see? Just as bad as ranger arrows.
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no, im dead serious, someone with an anet 'tag' on another forums posted that. im pretty sure the total inactivity bug would be fixed tho.
yeah, you shouldnt even be able to select a character whos not in your line of sight.
Last edited by Hanuman li Tosh; Oct 27, 2005 at 07:25 PM // 19:25..
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: garden of the gods, CO
Guild: Over Powered
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Waffletord
Mesmer interupts cast faster than ranger interupts, yet there is no delay.
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mesmer interupts generally dont do massive damage like ranger ones do, hence the dilema anet is faced with.
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
mesmer interupts generally dont do massive damage like ranger ones do, hence the dilema anet is faced with.
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No, you're right, they don't.
The guy i quoted said the skill should read "..you are doomed by its activation time.."
That would mean mesmer interupts should have a delay too.
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Oct 27, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
no, im dead serious, someone with an anet 'tag' on another forums posted that. im pretty sure the total inactivity bug would be fixed tho.
yeah, you shouldnt even be able to select a character whos not in your line of sight.
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That would be so stupid as to completely remove interrupts from rangers altogether. Please, whose going to use an interrupt and then not be able to do any other skill for four seconds?
Methinks your leg was yanked.
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